Jesse Lacey Come Again Now Lyrics
In February 2012 I stumbled across an intriguing interview from the United kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. James Smith of Extraneous Terrain had nabbed an interview with Jesse Lacey. My project seemed like to James' and I thought, 'side by side time Make New do a show nigh me I'thou going for it.' When the band announced a Canadian tour I frantically purchased tickets and got contact data from James. His response read; "Hey Luke. I was very lucky that they decided to talk to me. I believe that they have refused many interview requests in North America since before Deja Entendu. However yous're gratuitous to attempt. Attempt sending a message to (contact name). Good Luck!" Thus, I presented a semi-formal asking to interview Make New at their Baronial 3rd show in Guelph. That e-mail would become unanswered until August 2nd. On the morning time of August 3rd I checked my inbox and a cursory email held the discipline championship "Interview with Jesse Lacey". The message asked if I could be at the venue at 4:00pm.
Jesse came out of the venue sweating in the thick heat of that afternoon. He shook my hand and jetted off in front end of u.s.a. as nosotros walked out toward the charabanc.
"Yous've got half an 60 minutes" Mike said politely. "Then the guys have to practice sound check so I'll simply leave you lot to it here."
Jesse nodded equally he keyed the door lock to the bus. Two fans materialized asking for signatures on their tickets. Jesse kindly asked them to come dorsum in half an hour after the interview only only if they promised non to tell anyone else (he said this in a joking manner with mild tones of seriousness). The fans thanked him graciously and promised non to say a word.
When the bus door closed behind us Jesse asked for my proper name once more and nosotros sat down at a small table and started to talk.
JL: Yeah lamentable about that terminal infinitesimal detect (laughs). We've had so many printing asking and it'due south been a super busy last four weeks and usually I go through them correct when we go them every calendar week and I'll say 'I'll practise this, or this and not do that…
I didn't know that you lot were in charge of coordinating all of that.
JL: It's non so much me, like our friend and manager receives them and sends them through to me but yeah…we practise everything ourselves now.
Is that by and large since you lot've left the label?
JL: Aye…No, Yeah a little chip.
Do you like it meliorate that way? I mean it must be hectic but information technology gives you a bit more freedom to find the outlets you'd like to speak to.
JL: Well even when nosotros were on the characterization and had a larger management company there were still things we kind of did twenty-four hour period to day. Like this press stuff I would have washed six years ago but now information technology'southward but me and so if I don't practise it there isn't really many people asking me about it. So this time I slacked a flake on it and I went through the whole thing and your's was one of the few we're going to practice so…
Thanks very much, I appreciate it. I know you guys didn't do a lot around Daisy and I wasn't sure but I read the interview you did in the UK and spoke to him and I said 'how did you get that interview!"
JL:Did y'all talk to him?
Yes.
JL: He'south a proficient kid. That was a good talk. I think we withal shy abroad from the really large stuff. All magazines and big websites are but and so hard to exercise. They simply kind of want to write what their idea is already. Actually talking is kind of like this after thought to the interview or the article. And so they just need you to talk and so they can go their talking signal and that one sentence that volition make a quote. With Internet and and then many blogs and little zines going on it is cool so I sat down with [James] in the UK and we simply talked for nigh an hour and it was rad.
And so how'south Canada treating you? The past few nights, peculiarly Toronto, must take been crazy.
JL:Um yes, I know anybody is going to freak out near this just information technology was really ane of my top three shows of all time.
Wow!
JL:I just walked off stage…I experience bad at present because if we play this evening and it'southward not as good…(laughs) I mean, in that location's goose egg really that you can practise to make sure that happens, you lot know? There's no way to prepare and say 'Tonight is the night, we're going to conquer all." Information technology is just kind of this chance thing and we went out last dark and every song merely felt so great. I had and then much fun on phase and that doesn't happen…all the time surprisingly. I was ecstatic when I got off phase and I only sat down and felt then fulfilled and happy, it was a overnice feeling.
The crowd was apparently into it.
JL: Yep, that dorsum and forth with the crowd is e'er really important and as that nosotros gave last night they gave right back to united states of america.
At this point Garrett walked in and Jesse showed off a new picayune bass amp he bought at a local store.
I guess the first affair I wanted to talk about was the enigmatic presence Brand New established when The Devil and God… came out. You pulled away a flake and it put some fans off but it gave you all a fleck of liberation when Daisy came out. I mean, you ever had the liberty to do what you lot wanted to practice but I remember information technology detached fans in a good way. They were so relentless after Deja Entendu so is that what you lot were trying to do? Detach yourself and did you feel that liberation?
JL: I don't think that was the main goal…just then again it was. This is a really big conversation. At that place were so many things that happened in and then many facets, individually in our lives and in the ring and in the group that led to that whole movement, that shift. The paradigm changed for us and what nosotros were doing every bit creative people. When you start playing in a band, especially where we came from and the way nosotros went about it, there wasn't ever a plan. The whole idea was to start playing music together because that's what nosotros had ever done, we played in bands before this and our friends were in bands and information technology was just fun to do because Long Isle was similar that. There were shows every weekend and that was the whole point. Just and then y'all play New Jersey and Connecticut and Pennsylvania, so North Carolina and Ohio and suddenly you're in California and England.
And the tree just branches out while you're on the growing limb.
JL: Exactly. And so then it has picked up this momentum and nosotros're still in this mindset that we're just this band from Long Island merely all of a sudden we're going to put an album out on a label and this person wants to exercise an interview with me and now we have to do a photo shoot (Jesse said this with a baffled, questioning tone)?
And when you're young there'due south a lot of confusion. We weren't certain if we should merely be united states or exist some kind of "band" or other thought. We should have but been us, it would take been better, only we looked at other people around united states and got influenced by little things like people proverb "don't article of clothing that t-shirt" or "you should dress upward a bit for this photo shoot."
I thing I can say, where it counts…the music. Whether you felt pressured by the photograph shoots or the interviews any fan would agree that the music you made was never compromised.
JL: Luckily, aye. I would agree with that. But so it went on like that for a while and there was an imbalance. There was the music that was actually us and then in that location was all the other stuff that felt really strange. After those two records (Your Favorite Weapon, and Deja Entendu) we all looked at the way we had developed personally as people and equally a family unit, four people living together creating together, and we came to the decision that all of those peripheral things had nothing to do with the projection nosotros were working on. So there wasn't a reason to try moving on with those things, it felt a lot more comfortable not worrying about them and saying "I don't have to accept a picture or I don't have to do a music video." And then it became, well nosotros tin can just be a ring that makes music and then goes and plays information technology and we don't always have to exist anyone different than Jesse, Vin, Garrett, Brian…people don't have to know us to enjoy us. Like, I probably couldn't choice the guys from Archers of Loaf or Congenital to Spill out of a crowd but I know every discussion to their songs and every note backward and forward information technology just never occurred to me to dig into their background. I understand fandom, and when yous like fine art you want to be immersed in the world of the person who created it but people can only exist involved as much every bit that person permit's them. We pulled dorsum those borders closer to ourselves and it did kind of create this enigmatic presence only nosotros weren't trying to create mystery.
And that showed up in something as trivial every bit the liner notes in The Devil and God…. Things were X'd out and crossed out and all beyond the internet people only went crazy for that.
JL: Exactly! And things similar that…it was merely me misspelling things and crossing them out! But if you look at the themes those records represent and what we were looking for we realized that peradventure this whole thing should be more than about a personal discovery for the states as opposed to some kind of search for fame or recognition.
Right and when y'all await at those albums the themes are in that location and tangible. They are present simply the fandom generated from Deja Entendu and before that was almost dangerous because information technology built up such an expectation in fans that it almost shielded them from experiences what you were releasing.
JL: Yeah, that's true. I hateful I go expectation, I empathise it. I've been let downward by albums just like anyone else has the aforementioned style people may have been permit down past me, but I never held it against them. I think the just thing you tin can ever expect from anyone is for them to exist good and honest. I think those are two important things so when those fans from the first few records developed an expectation I call back some of them made information technology into something more what we were trying to do equally a ring trying to make the all-time music we could make.
JL:(Jesse had a memory break and starts to laugh in disbelief as he recounts an eye opening moment). Sometimes people were talking more about my hair…like I used to have this kind of swooped up thing going on.
I recall that.
JL: Yeah (laughing). I remember my friend was playing a show and it was right around the time of The Devil and God…. He asked if I wanted to come play some songs on stage then I said sure, and I had just cut my hair and maybe I had put on a couple pounds so I played some songs and I thought I would just check out on the cyberspace and come across if at that place had been any response or comment (pause, nevertheless shaking his head chuckling). Seriously, there were people proverb things like "Hey some kid was on stage playing some Brand New songs" and another guy was like "I think that was Jesse" and the other guy just bashed him and was like "No fashion, that wasn't Jesse." That was a really profound moment. I hateful I tin't imagine me being at, like, a David Bowie prove and he'southward non dressed as Ziggy Stardust so I don't know who he is. I mean I'k non comparing myself to Bowie but it was definitely eye opening.
And then that kind of simply farther cemented the course you were taking with The Devil and God…. I've read a lot near Daisy and how Brand New wanted to write something that would exist fun or heady to play on stage dark afterward night merely it seems like in that location is a lot more than going on with that record. Now that the record'due south had a few years to age the themes seem more aligned to a vicious shedding of sorts.
JL: Meet, Daisy was kind of like an finish of a road or tangent for us. I can't listen to that album now, it is exhausting.
And it doesn't period (laughing).
JL: Right (Jesse admitted with raised eyebrows, laughing) there is NO flow to that album. But if The Devil and God… was a course correction for us, Daisy was the anxiety of doing the right matter and being on course with who we wanted to be. Frankly, information technology'south a lot easier to be a nut or to not reply to your decisions. It's much easier to but exercise things and non care near the consequences. Doing the right thing is really hard.
That's interesting to see Daisy in that frame. It was a polarizing album I think considering of how raw and ferocious information technology was. Something yous mentioned earlier was an expectation for a ring to be honest and I think that's something Brand New have always been. With the distancing from media and the themes of the albums you've never been anything but honest even if it was hard for the band or difficult for fans to have.
JL: (Jesse nodded his caput) Thank you very much. It hasn't been easy. I hateful some of us grew up with this all going on, similar Vin. I remember for Vin it was the hardest and I requite him the most credit. He was like, 17 when he started in the band and that fourth dimension between 17 and, say, 22, is one of the most important for a person. It is when you lot truly develop your social skills and get-go to ascertain who yous want to be and with everything I mentioned going on it would accept been really easy for him to go lost in that but he manned right up and I give him a lot of credit for that.
It's always special to see a band with its original members evolve and push through the machine to stay, or in some cases, become back to exactly what they desire to exist. Yous must be proud of Brand New for that.
JL: I am, I am proud that Make New has lasted because there are times when factors could have lead elsewhere, and I've always said if i person left the ring that was it, this would be done.
And then did Daisy salvage Brand New?
JL: No, I think The Devil and God… saved Brand New. Daisy was just the venting of anxiety, of letting go and doing the right affair for us personally and as a band. It's a very hard way to do something but it is the best way. There's a lot of pent up emotion that goes into owning upward to who you are, what yous are doing and the choices you lot are making then Daisy was us rejoicing in that (Jesse chuckles), a burning rejoice.
And suddenly most of that anthology clicked for me. Listeners take often questioned the lyrics and themes of that record, the repetition of things burning and maybe what Jesse had told me was a big part of solving that record, or at least listening to it in a different fashion.
Clearly Brand New have matured across the bridge of your albums. Exercise you remember you've challenged your listeners to mature with yous or to mature in a way that is honest?
JL: I don't know, peradventure that'due south somewhat of a goal just people mature naturally because they are human being. If someone has listened from the start and matured aslope us information technology isn't the same relationship that we (the band) take but it is something close to it.
Y'all mentioned that y'all weren't exactly excited to get back into the studio because you wanted to experiment with how to record music a little bit.
JL: I call back I may have misspoken on that a chip. Nosotros want to experiment with the arts and crafts of recording music and how to structure information technology. I think we're interested in the layering and the technical components that might make new music interesting from a dissimilar perspective.
Then what happens side by side? I know you had time in the studio in April.
JL: Well zero really came of that. Vin's brother and Brian are working on a project so that was mostly them. It sounds so skilful. Vin'southward brother is inspiring creatively. He's just an endless well of creative ideas that are out there…his arroyo to recording and writing a song are outside the box only and so refreshing.
Yous've mentioned that some writing is taking place though. What would you say are the main factors that bear on the progress either positively or negatively?
JL: I think in that location'southward still a little chip of that venting from Daisy, it kind of explodes out every now and then but rarely. And I think we're washed exploring that road. Most of my writing is realizations. A tape is like a complex problem and the themes and ideas we want to explore are part of the equation to solving that trouble. Information technology's about righting a great problem with a lens that is constantly zooming in on possible solutions. Daisy was the hardest to tape because for every problem we solved 10 more would pop up. I recall we're searching for the theme of the anthology right at present and that will assist bring the "problem" nosotros're trying to solve into focus.
Is it frustrating trying to explain to fans that you're not but sitting around being vague and unproductive?
JL:You lot know I've never been asked that but thanks! Sometimes I want people to know there is something going on here. Nosotros want to present something that is skillful and honest and we have to do that in our own way only it is sometimes hard to convey that to people who are waiting.
So how exercise y'all know when you're washed?
JL: Well before people would tell us we were done (laughs). Now it is more a matter of exhaustion. When we've sequenced the anthology in every possible style twoscore times and just can't do it anymore then we'll have to manus information technology over to the listeners and their combined effort will keep to shape what information technology is.
And shows must be a adept manner to let the problem continue to be explored. Are instrumental songs a trivial easier in that respect because the construction tin can exist shaped differently a little easier? Is that why The Devil and God… had two instrumental tracks?
JL: Exactly. Playing the songs live lets us keep attacking the problem from new angles. A lot of the time that problem becomes executing the song because we record in sort of a piecemeal fashion. I think the instrumental tracks are something I want to exercise more of. I used to dearest those little connecting songs on albums. And when we jam as a band sometimes those instrumental jams are the most special. Nosotros've gotten together for hours and only jammed an instrumental song with the lights depression.
That must exist a reassuring matter, existence able to play like that with your band and no i is rolling their eyes checking the clock.
JL: Exactly! We're merely all on the same vibe enjoying making music together. It is a reminder of the strengths in the bonds of Brand New.
Do yous retrieve y'all have the theme somewhat honed for the new material at present or is it still quite vague?
JL: Information technology's funny…I joked a while ago that Make New was going to make happy music. I mean I said it on stage i night and anybody ran with it. I don't think we're going to write happy music though. We do sad bounder quite well (laughs) Just we want our music to answer questions and the affair is that sometimes those questions are sad ones. We want to make new music with new answers but sometimes the questions are still deplorable ones and sometimes that is simply a reality. Life is almost accepting the hard parts like loss, and succeeding in guild.
Is there a way to judge the merit of an album in progress or an album that has recently been released? Is at that place a way that the band judges information technology outside of critical or fan reaction?
JL: That's tough because fine art is often unquantifiable I retrieve. A song can hateful so much more to one person than another, and it might even hateful more than depending on a point in life that a person hears it so that gets to me sometimes. I come from a family unit of seven and it is easy to quantify what my parents have done, raising us. My family is very hard working and I wonder if what I'm doing, my career, if it is fulfilling or if I am doing plenty. My dad is a nurse and he saves lives. That is quantifiable and skilful. He is helping.
Only if it makes yous happy than I'm sure your family would hold that you are being successful.
JL: Sure, but it still gets to me sometimes. I know what I've chosen fulfills me creatively merely I sometimes wonder if I am doing enough. People measure their success. Say you lot build a business firm, there is something tangible. Y'all have each block in the right place and a roof on meridian and as long as that house can contain people and withstand the elements you lot can say you lot've done your chore. Sometimes I wonder how I can do that.
At this point I realized that Mike, the ring's tour manager, had been sitting at that place for quite some time and had been politely trying to tell Jesse that the band needed to do audio cheque. My one-half hour with Jesse was pushing 56 minutes. Equally Mike left and Jesse promised to be in soon, he pointed to the retreating body.
JL: That is a quantifiable job (laughs). We aren't the nigh punctual people and he'due south been going not-cease considering he is our sound guy likewise. He's been amazing so far and we actually appreciate Mike.
Well I capeesh the time yous've given me Jesse. I but wanted to go out you with something that made a lot of fans happy and I'll only dovetail back to the interview you did in the Britain. When asked what your greatest achievement was you said that as individuals you lot were all very content. I think that means a lot to your fans and hopefully fifty-fifty more so now with some of the things we've spoken virtually.
JL: Thanks very much. I retrieve, y'all know what feels amazing? Out of all the lyrics I've written sometimes in that location is 1 sentence or one department or stanza that comes out EXACTLY the fashion I heard it in my head. Everything I wanted to say gets summed up perfectly. And I think, out of all the people listening, if even one other person hears that and hears it exactly the way I heard it in my head…if they connect with it exactly the same way and then that's the roof on my house. That'south my task washed.
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